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Griffin vs. Riggs: what are the odds the result will change if 65,000 votes are thrown out?

Post updated March 6 and 7 — see the  end.

Justice Allison Riggs maintains a 734-vote lead over Republican rival Jefferson Griffin after more than 5.5 million ballots were cast and two recounts. Griffin is seeking to have 65,000 ballots thrown out. Today I will answer a question no one has asked: What is the probability he will win the election if the votes are thrown out? The answer is 2/1000.

A reversal may sound extremely likely, but the square root of 65,000 is 255. Suppose we have 5.5 million ping pong balls in a swimming pool. Exactly half have R for Riggs and half have G for Griffin. We then draw 65,000 ping pong balls out. What is the probability that the outcome of the election is changed? If we count balls with R as +1 and balls with G as -1 then the election result is change if the sum of the numbers which we call S is > 734, since this is the net number of votes lost by Riggs.

In the jargon of probability these balls are drawn without replacement, but given the large number of balls, this differs very little from drawing with replacement, which is just flipping 65000 coins and counting +1 for heads and -1 tails. On the average the net change in the outcome is 0, or in the terminology of probability the expected value of S = 0. Of course the resulting sum is unlikely to be exactly 0. In elementary probability class we learn how to compute the size of the typical deviation of S from 0, which is the standard deviation. In the case of 65000 independent random variables that are +1 with probability ½ and -1 with probability ½ the standard deviation is the square root of 65,000 or 255.

The central limit theorem allows us to estimate the probability the number of votes lost by Riggs, S > 734. This value is 734/255 = 2.878 standard deviations above the mean. Using my calculator function normalcdf I can calculate using the normal approximation that the probability the outcome of the election does not change is 0.997998, or the chances that the election outcome will change is less than 2 out of 1000 or 0.2%.

Taking this reasoning further. Let us suppose that throwing out the 65,000 votes results in a loss of 1530 votes for Riggs. This result is 6 standard deviations above the mean. Using the calculator again gives a probability of 0.00000001 that this occurs. Thus if throwing out the votes results in a change of more than 1530 votes in the outcome then we are absolutely certain that the votes chosen to be challenged were not chosen at random. They are a biased sample of ineligible voters that contains more Democrats than one would. This is hardly surprising since the Republican party made the list, but this observation provides one more reason that the votes should not be thrown out.

One reader questioned the assumption of indpendence of party and registration status. One practical consideration is that if we don’t do that we can’t compute anything. In ecological terms, independence is a null model. Once we reject it then we ask why. One explanation is that democrats are more incompetent at filling out the registration form, but it seems more likely that the Repubicans who made the list were more likely to put Demicrats on it.

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As I have thought about the situation more I think that is a convincing argument for not throwing out these votes can be based on statistical data. If the list consisted of say 3000 voters all of whom were Democrats, it would be ridiculous to throw out these votes which would hand to election to Griffin.

I don’t have access to the list of 65,000 names and their parties but if for instance it consisted of 30,000 Democrats, 20,000 Independents and 15,000 Republicans this would show a bias since the fraction of registered voters of the three types are 32% D, 38% I, 30% R. Information quoted in Riggs’ emails already points to an unexpectedly large number of college students on the list.

. I suspect that at the end of the process when the case reaches the NC Supreme Court it will be decided on party lines and Griffin will be elected by the same group that decided partisan gerrymandering is legal. As the actions of the legislature in the years that they have had a veto proof majority indicate, Republicans are not swayed by arguments about what is unfair. But I guess the large fraction of them who believe that Trump won the 2020 election indicates they don’t believe in statistics either.

 

The Arithmetic of Presidential Elections

In November of 2012, I remember watching Robin Meade on Headline News saying that the race between Obama and Romney was a statistical dead heat. Both were projected to get 47% of the popular vote. Meanwhile a guy named Nate Silver on his web site 538.com was predicting based on state-by-state data that Obama would win by a comfortable margin and he did.

2012    Obama            332      Romney          206

2016    H. Clinton       227      Trump             304      Other   7

2020    Biden               306      Trump             232

My question here: is what will happen in 2024?

By now it is widely recognized that there are Red States, Blue States and Swing States. To identify these we gathered data by looking at the Wikipedia articles on the 2012, 2016, and 2020 Presidential Elections, where it can be downloaded into a spreadsheet. Rather than use our “knowledge of politics” to classify the states, we declared a state RED if it had gone Republican in all three elections, BLUE if it had gone Republican in all three elections, and SWING otherwise.

Cleaning the Data

Dealing with real data is annoying. One immediate headache is that in Maine and Nebraska two electoral votes are decided by the voters of the state as a whole, and the others are determined by votes in the various congressional districts. This is handled differently in the three data sets. Since ME-1, ME-2, NE-1, NE-2, and NE-3 were consistently used for the districts, we made the brilliant decision to use ME-0 and NE-0 for the statewide electoral votes.

The New and North states were also a problem. In one data set they are alphabetized by their abbreviations: N.C., N.D., N.H., N.J., N.M., and N.Y. while in the other two the names are written out. Before I realized this, there were some very surprising patterns in the voting of New Yorkers. Finally when I thought I had found all of the differences I saw that in the 2020 Maryland was abbreviated Md. so it swapped places with Massachusetts, and in all three data sets West Virginia was written as W.Va and hence came before Washington (the state).

Our methodology

To create an ordering of the redness of states, we looked at the percentages of votes for Democrats minus the percentages of votes for Republicans, and ranked them by the sum of the numbers for the three elections. This produced the following classification:

Red States (170 Electoral Votes)

(Reddest first) NE-3, Wyo., W.Va., Oklahoma, Idaho, North Dakota, Utah, Kentucky, Arkansas, Alabama, South Dakota, Tenn., NE-0, Kansas, Louisiana, NE-1, Montana, Miss., Indiana, Missouri, Alaska, South Carolina, Texas

Blue States (215)

Minnesota, Colorado, ME-0, New Mexico, Oregon, New Jersey, Delaware, Washington, Illinois, Virginia, Conneticut, ME-1, Rhode Island, Vermont, New York, California, Mass., Maryland, Hawaii, D.C. (Bluest last) On the average 85% of people in DC voted Democratic in the last three years, but that may change this year

 

Swing states (153)

(almost red) Ohio, Georgia, Arizona, Iowa, ME-2, North Carolina, Florida, NE-2, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada, Michigan, New Hampshire (almost blue)

Reality Check

According to Wikipedia “areas considered battlegrounds in the 2020 election were Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Maine’s 2nd congressional district, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska’s 2nd congressional district, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas and Wisconsin.”