“That ain’t about racism. That’s about something else.”—DeLancy on race

Jay DeLancy hasn’t just been accused of being wrong, he’s been accused of being racist. Various people have argued or implied that Voter Integrity Project’s attempts to remove voters from the rolls as well as the voter ID requirements VIP supports are racially discriminatory. DeLancy argues that this is not the case, and says that those who believe VIP is racially discriminatory are being “played”:

“I think there’s two groups. There’s people who know they want to steal elections and there’s the masses who are being played to believe that the intent of the election integrity movement, and it is a movement by the way, that the intent of that movement is to discriminate against blacks and bring back Jim Crow.  That’s just total malarkey.”

Andre Danko: So my follow up question actually kind of speaks to that in that as you go about trying to ensure the integrity of the vote, do you think that ensuring everyone is legible to register to vote is also an important issue and more specifically do you think there are measures that can be taken to ensure no person or group is put at a disadvantage in their ability to vote?

Jay DeLancy:

I hope you’ll put this on your site, I’d love for someone to see this slide I thought I would show it and you all can have copies.  Since 1993 the biggest crime in the world is to inconvenience someone in registering to vote and if you do it then you must be an evil person to inconvenience them at all.  You think historically what you know, what my forefathers did in the military to secure that right to vote and now something like “wow I have to go get an ID” is considered discrimination.  And so I’m opposed to things like universal registration. I’m opposed to registering people who don’t know they’re registered because voting is a public act and it’s a deliberate act and it’s a sacred act.  Someone should want to do it and when you start flooding the voter rolls with people who don’t know that they’re even registered and don’t care and just don’t even care enough to go vote what you’ve done is created a situation where their identity can be stolen and there’s nothing anybody can do about it.  We are generally opposed to all of those.  We’re opposed to internet voting because anybody could rig it through programming.  We’re opposed to electronic tabulation machines because people don’t trust them.  You can tell me all day from a computer science perspective, you could show me all day all the safeguards you have in it, but as we know from Apple with all their great safeguards they have to protect the identity of their phone, the FBI found a way to hack their phones and we know for any measure there’s a countermeasure so the key is keep it simple.  Make people demonstrate some effort to vote.  Make them register and just universally apply it.  Let’s get a reality check here.  If you put a bank down in a bad part of town and you run the bank there for years and you lose money.  You have to hire security efforts.  It’s been robbed.  You close the bank.  I did something that affected that community and they’re mad at me for it and they’re saying “you discriminated against us.” Well no.  If I kept the bank open for white people only, or for Hispanics only, or for black people only, then I’m discriminating.  When I close that bank and say we’re not operating there, no one’s going in that bank.  I don’t care what color your skin is.  I’m not discriminating against them.  I’m just changing the rules on how we’re gonna do this.  As long as these rules are universally applied – and see the Jim Crow era they were not universally applied. And Jim Crow – big democrat KKK alliance that created the Jim Crow era.  They were really trying to discriminate against black people.  My Dad, for being too friendly with Clarence Lightner, the guy who ran for mayor in Raleigh back in the ’60’s, I got up one morning to go to school and he’s laying on the couch.  He’d been beat up badly.  The Klan had beaten him up.  That era is then and this is not that.  When you discriminate universally saying we’re gonna make you prove your identity everyone’s doing it.  It’s not a matter of “well it inconveniences this population more than that population,” which by the way is a very paternalistic and kind of racist thought of your own view when you say, and we heard it in the trial.  I wish I could quote him exactly, but someone saying that, “well blacks have a harder time getting an ID.”  He went on to say things that just made you realize you are being racist against black people thinking they’re not smart enough to get an ID.  I wish every black person would understand that they’re being played in that argument when no, those people are talking down to you Mister instead of just saying “well get your ID cause that’s the law.”  Sorry, I’m passionate on the subject.

Gautam Hathi:

Just to follow up, I mean obviously those are the reasons why you might want to universally apply this but obviously the perspective of the other side is – do you at least understand the fact that they’re suspicious of this given the history that’s there?

Jay DeLancy:

Their suspicion is greatly fueled by the Black Lives Matters – the agitation industry – who makes money sending out fund raising letters and we didn’t realize that until we got attacked on the Rachel Maddow program and started realizing we must be doing something right. Cause I know, you know, when I saw New York SEIUNY 1199.  That’s a union in New York with a caravan of vans with their stickers proudly emblazon on the van. They drove down here to protest North Carolina’s voter ID law.  That ain’t about racism.  That’s about something else.  I’m afraid it’s about fraud.  It makes me really suspicious as to what they’re up to that they’re coming down here.  I just don’t believe these people. I think there’s two groups.  There’s people who know they want to steal elections and there’s the masses who are being played to believe that the intent of the election integrity movement, and it is a movement by the way, that the intent of that movement is to discriminate against blacks and bring back Jim Crow.  That’s just total malarkey and yet that’s the only argument they have because they will not discuss the facts.  The facts are people are stealing elections, people are stealing votes, and then they dismiss it.  Its like arguing with Donald Trump. They start going after you instead of discussing the facts.  And that’s what we’re into.  When they give all this racial rock throwing, they’re just trying to – they’re either played or they’re playing people.  I’m not gonna question the motive of the right honorable reverend Barber cause I tried to get to him and I did have a nice conversation with him.  And we’re gonna disagree.  He went to Duke divinity school and that’s a very – I don’t know if you heard this but there’s a whole lot of social gospel kind of Marxist thinking that goes on there and I think he was overly influenced by that and so he’s bought into that argument.  And I disagree and I think as I told him I’ll tell any black activist who will come to me and I’ll say one day you’re gonna realize we’re on the same side and I look forward to that day and they look at me skeptically.  But they’ll figure it out one day cause we’re trying to be honest brokers in a game where everybody is screaming at each other and it’s like dude if they stifle our voice this union is in big trouble.  That’s all I can say.