Wesley Hogan: I feel like South Carolina, because of the shifts in the law, must have been fairly difficult to navigate as a provider. Having to suddenly track all the stuff that the legislature is doing, or that the judiciary is doing. So can you talk a little bit about that part of it– just trying to figure out what’s going on, what you’re allowed to do, just legally, and then, will the employer allow the care to take place?

Dr. Tricia Seal: So I was lucky enough that I know some lobbyists, and I’m the vice chair of our South Carolina ACOG. So when something big was coming down, like an enjoinment, or a no longer enjoined, or Supreme Court threw out the case, or now we have a new law that’s been enacted. And oh, now that law’s enjoined. And oh, now that law stands– I had a constant stream on my phone. I will tell you that for this most recent law, I had just finished doing a D&E [dilation and evacuation] for a patient that was scheduled at 7:30 in the morning that I had to, again, really beg my surgical scheduler to get it in at 7:30 and bump other cases. And then half an hour after I’ve done her case in the operating room, my phone buzzes that they just enacted the law. So that was really challenging, because I can’t even imagine going to that patient, who has dilators in, to tell her that I would not be able to do her procedure. You know? And I had a couple interruptions like that, where I had someone on the schedule and then I would say, “I can’t do your procedure anymore because of all this back and forth with the enjoinments, and disenjoinments, and Supreme Court’s yes and Supreme Court’s no. I definitely had one patient who was like, “I can’t take that risk of waiting for next week for my schedule. I’m just going to go to North Carolina.” And that was in June [2023]. And then of course, now North Carolina is no longer an option for them either.