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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 05:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Trying to Predict the Present: An Interview with Cory Doctorow by forex multivers</title>
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		<dc:creator>forex multivers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 04:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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[...] This is a insightful blog post, you can read more from the original site. [...]...]]></description>
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<p>[...] This is a insightful blog post, you can read more from the original site. [...]&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Trying to Predict the Present: An Interview with Cory Doctorow by Felix Pleșoianu</title>
		<link>http://sites.duke.edu/writingthefuture/2010/04/26/trying-to-predict-the-present-an-interview-with-cory-doctorow/#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator>Felix Pleșoianu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 06:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@sch30 Isn&#039;t that the whole point of the book? That the Bitchun Society, though utopian from our perspective, is far from perfect? Well, of course; perfection is unattainable, pretty much by definition.

As for trying to create an utopian society by force, there&#039;s a very good treatment of that in Bernard Weber&#039;s novel _The Ants_. Each chapter starts with a (presumably real) case study of someone or other&#039;s attempt to create an utopian society. Interestingly enough, all these attempts boiled down to the same scenario: gather up a few people, lock them up in an isolated compound and force them to live by an artificial set of rules with no grounding in reality. The result? A bloodshed in a few months at most. In. Every. Single. Case.

And how are you going to create a perfect society? Egalitarianism doesn&#039;t work, simply because things aren&#039;t equal, let alone people. And if there&#039;s going to be an hierarchy, someone&#039;s going to end up at the bottom... and they&#039;re not going to like it at all, even if they fully deserve to be there. So no matter what you do, not everyone is going to get what they want. No matter how much there is of everything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@sch30 Isn&#8217;t that the whole point of the book? That the Bitchun Society, though utopian from our perspective, is far from perfect? Well, of course; perfection is unattainable, pretty much by definition.</p>
<p>As for trying to create an utopian society by force, there&#8217;s a very good treatment of that in Bernard Weber&#8217;s novel _The Ants_. Each chapter starts with a (presumably real) case study of someone or other&#8217;s attempt to create an utopian society. Interestingly enough, all these attempts boiled down to the same scenario: gather up a few people, lock them up in an isolated compound and force them to live by an artificial set of rules with no grounding in reality. The result? A bloodshed in a few months at most. In. Every. Single. Case.</p>
<p>And how are you going to create a perfect society? Egalitarianism doesn&#8217;t work, simply because things aren&#8217;t equal, let alone people. And if there&#8217;s going to be an hierarchy, someone&#8217;s going to end up at the bottom&#8230; and they&#8217;re not going to like it at all, even if they fully deserve to be there. So no matter what you do, not everyone is going to get what they want. No matter how much there is of everything.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Trying to Predict the Present: An Interview with Cory Doctorow by Felix Pleșoianu</title>
		<link>http://sites.duke.edu/writingthefuture/2010/04/26/trying-to-predict-the-present-an-interview-with-cory-doctorow/#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>Felix Pleșoianu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 06:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@heb7 You wrote:

&quot;Duke University actually trampled my faith in the meritocracy (...) I do not feel like a winner of meritocracy, (...) because no matter how hard I work at this University, there is always somebody more intelligent, someone that is able to work harder, someone that actually deserves to really succeed and perform more proficiently than me.&quot;

Uh, no offence, but you seem to be describing a meritocracy that actually works. How did that trampled your faith in meritocracy? Because you&#039;re not at the top? It sounds like what you don&#039;t really believe in meritocracy in the first place, but just want to be at the top because... um, er... don&#039;t we all?

Incidentally, we do have a world-wide meritocracy that actually works... mostly (with the problems mentioned in the interview, but hey, that&#039;s the network effect for you). It&#039;s the world of open source software development, and you know how much controversy it stirs. A lot of people *cough* managers *cough* marketers *cough* *cough* can&#039;t seem to wrap their heads around an environment where there&#039;s an objective, impossible-to-game measure of good work. That might explain why the society at large isn&#039;t a meritocratic utopia yet: because people know that in such a society, if they ended up at the bottom, they couldn&#039;t complain about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@heb7 You wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Duke University actually trampled my faith in the meritocracy (&#8230;) I do not feel like a winner of meritocracy, (&#8230;) because no matter how hard I work at this University, there is always somebody more intelligent, someone that is able to work harder, someone that actually deserves to really succeed and perform more proficiently than me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, no offence, but you seem to be describing a meritocracy that actually works. How did that trampled your faith in meritocracy? Because you&#8217;re not at the top? It sounds like what you don&#8217;t really believe in meritocracy in the first place, but just want to be at the top because&#8230; um, er&#8230; don&#8217;t we all?</p>
<p>Incidentally, we do have a world-wide meritocracy that actually works&#8230; mostly (with the problems mentioned in the interview, but hey, that&#8217;s the network effect for you). It&#8217;s the world of open source software development, and you know how much controversy it stirs. A lot of people *cough* managers *cough* marketers *cough* *cough* can&#8217;t seem to wrap their heads around an environment where there&#8217;s an objective, impossible-to-game measure of good work. That might explain why the society at large isn&#8217;t a meritocratic utopia yet: because people know that in such a society, if they ended up at the bottom, they couldn&#8217;t complain about it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Trying to Predict the Present: An Interview with Cory Doctorow by Up Too Early Central Timezone Blues &#171; Gerry Canavan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Up Too Early Central Timezone Blues &#171; Gerry Canavan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] It turns out the measurement fallacy Cory Doctorow was speaking about in my class&#8217;s interview with him has a name: Goodhart&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Trying to Predict the Present: An Interview with Cory Doctorow by Down and Out In the Magic Kingdom &#62;&#62; Blog Archive &#187; Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom: Utopianism and the problems with Whuffie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Down and Out In the Magic Kingdom &#62;&#62; Blog Archive &#187; Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom: Utopianism and the problems with Whuffie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 09:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Gerry Canavan is teaching my novel Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom in a class on utopias and he conducted an interview with me on the subject for the course:  CD: I based Whuffie at the time more on Slashdot’s Karma, and I don’t know that Faceook has [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Gerry Canavan is teaching my novel Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom in a class on utopias and he conducted an interview with me on the subject for the course:  CD: I based Whuffie at the time more on Slashdot’s Karma, and I don’t know that Faceook has [...]</p>
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		<dc:creator>Cory Doctorow&#8217;s craphound.com &#62;&#62; Blog Archive &#187; Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom: Utopianism and the problems with Whuffie</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Gerry Canavan in teaching my novel Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom in a class on utopias and he conducted an interview with me on the subject for the course:  CD: I based Whuffie at the time more on Slashdot’s Karma, and I don’t know that Faceook has [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Gerry Canavan in teaching my novel Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom in a class on utopias and he conducted an interview with me on the subject for the course:  CD: I based Whuffie at the time more on Slashdot’s Karma, and I don’t know that Faceook has [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Trying to Predict the Present: An Interview with Cory Doctorow by Trying to Predict the Present: An Interview with Cory Doctorow &#171; Gerry Canavan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trying to Predict the Present: An Interview with Cory Doctorow &#171; Gerry Canavan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 00:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] coursework this semester my Writing 20 class recently did a group interview with Cory Doctorow, which can be found at the course blog here. It came out, if I may so myself, pretty well; they asked really good questions, and Cory gave [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] coursework this semester my Writing 20 class recently did a group interview with Cory Doctorow, which can be found at the course blog here. It came out, if I may so myself, pretty well; they asked really good questions, and Cory gave [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Trying to Predict the Present: An Interview with Cory Doctorow by Jared</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 13:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To both Cory Doctorow and Gerry Canavan, thank you for doing this interview. Cory&#039;s point about measuring proxies really struck home with me. It is far too easy, possibly even inevitable, that we forget what we really care about when we try to measure it. All the time we see food marked ``low calorie&#039;&#039; or ``low fat,&#039;&#039; and while these statements are technically true, much of the time they do not make the food any more healthy. Companies producing the food (if we can even call some of it food anymore) have learned how to game the system and make cheap food products that are ``good&#039;&#039; by some standard of measurement, which we unfortunately use as a proxy for how healthy the food is. Case in point: high fructose corn syrup is marketed as nutritionally the same as sugar, though research suggests it is not (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100322121115.htm).

Cory&#039;s pointing out the ``tautological definition of merit in a meritocracy&#039;&#039; was also enlightening. However, I would go a bit further; I wonder if we are truly winners of this system. I&#039;m not trying to say I don&#039;t think Duke is great, but I do wonder if it is that much better than any other school could have been for a lower price. We believe ourselves to be winners of this meritocratic system, but the definition of winning also seems tautological here: we believe we are winners here because we are told that getting into Duke means you are a winner, not necessarily because Duke is the best school (not that I am saying it isn&#039;t).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To both Cory Doctorow and Gerry Canavan, thank you for doing this interview. Cory&#8217;s point about measuring proxies really struck home with me. It is far too easy, possibly even inevitable, that we forget what we really care about when we try to measure it. All the time we see food marked &#8220;low calorie&#8221; or &#8220;low fat,&#8221; and while these statements are technically true, much of the time they do not make the food any more healthy. Companies producing the food (if we can even call some of it food anymore) have learned how to game the system and make cheap food products that are &#8220;good&#8221; by some standard of measurement, which we unfortunately use as a proxy for how healthy the food is. Case in point: high fructose corn syrup is marketed as nutritionally the same as sugar, though research suggests it is not (<a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100322121115.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100322121115.htm</a>).</p>
<p>Cory&#8217;s pointing out the &#8220;tautological definition of merit in a meritocracy&#8221; was also enlightening. However, I would go a bit further; I wonder if we are truly winners of this system. I&#8217;m not trying to say I don&#8217;t think Duke is great, but I do wonder if it is that much better than any other school could have been for a lower price. We believe ourselves to be winners of this meritocratic system, but the definition of winning also seems tautological here: we believe we are winners here because we are told that getting into Duke means you are a winner, not necessarily because Duke is the best school (not that I am saying it isn&#8217;t).</p>
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