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	<description>X4: Uses of William Blake in Popular Culture</description>
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		<title>Comment on R2: William Blake and Jim Morrison by Katherine Zhang</title>
		<link>http://sites.duke.edu/jdharris2/2011/11/27/r2-william-blake-and-jim-morrison/#comment-172</link>
		<dc:creator>Katherine Zhang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 05:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I sense a connection between two of the things you mentioned, Abby: creativity and animals. After all, Blake&#039;s poem &quot;The Tyger&quot; is all about creation. Blake asks the question, &quot;What immortal hand or eye / Could frame thy fearful symmetry.&quot; Here Blake is delving into the dark side of creativity (remember the Frankenstein comic that Katherine Craven posted earlier?). Creativity is not always a wonderful, bright, flawless, PG-rated thing. &quot;Did he who made the Lamb make thee?&quot; Blake ponders. Creativity is thus capable of both &quot;realms of light&quot; and &quot;endless night,&quot; to use Morrison&#039;s lyrics. This is the kind of creativity I&#039;m guessing Morrison was trying to tap into -- the dark and mysterious side rather than the pure and innocent kind; Blake was obviously well-acquainted with both.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sense a connection between two of the things you mentioned, Abby: creativity and animals. After all, Blake&#8217;s poem &#8220;The Tyger&#8221; is all about creation. Blake asks the question, &#8220;What immortal hand or eye / Could frame thy fearful symmetry.&#8221; Here Blake is delving into the dark side of creativity (remember the Frankenstein comic that Katherine Craven posted earlier?). Creativity is not always a wonderful, bright, flawless, PG-rated thing. &#8220;Did he who made the Lamb make thee?&#8221; Blake ponders. Creativity is thus capable of both &#8220;realms of light&#8221; and &#8220;endless night,&#8221; to use Morrison&#8217;s lyrics. This is the kind of creativity I&#8217;m guessing Morrison was trying to tap into &#8212; the dark and mysterious side rather than the pure and innocent kind; Blake was obviously well-acquainted with both.</p>
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		<title>Comment on R2: William Blake and Jim Morrison by Abby Delbianco</title>
		<link>http://sites.duke.edu/jdharris2/2011/11/27/r2-william-blake-and-jim-morrison/#comment-170</link>
		<dc:creator>Abby Delbianco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 03:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Morrison&#039;s motivation was an exploration of creativity, especially into the darker side of humanity.  As Faulkner said, &quot;defeat is good for art; victory, it is not good.&quot;  This is also evident in Blake&#039;s work as his Songs of Experience demonstrate arguably deeper metaphor and more complicated themes than the more simple pieces of Songs of Innocence.  Faced into the darker unknown, both artists found a greater realm to question and to explore.  Do you think Blake and Morrison saw those themes in the same way and attempted to portray similar messages, or not?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Morrison&#8217;s motivation was an exploration of creativity, especially into the darker side of humanity.  As Faulkner said, &#8220;defeat is good for art; victory, it is not good.&#8221;  This is also evident in Blake&#8217;s work as his Songs of Experience demonstrate arguably deeper metaphor and more complicated themes than the more simple pieces of Songs of Innocence.  Faced into the darker unknown, both artists found a greater realm to question and to explore.  Do you think Blake and Morrison saw those themes in the same way and attempted to portray similar messages, or not?</p>
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		<title>Comment on R2: William Blake and Jim Morrison by klc53@duke.edu</title>
		<link>http://sites.duke.edu/jdharris2/2011/11/27/r2-william-blake-and-jim-morrison/#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator>klc53@duke.edu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 03:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is very interesting insight about Blake&#039;s poems, and into the underlying meaning of Morrison&#039;s song. As I said in my reply to your post, you have opened me up to a unique perspective. Now, it is quite apparent that both individuals share dark themes in their works. What do you think sparked Morrison to write about these dark themes?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is very interesting insight about Blake&#8217;s poems, and into the underlying meaning of Morrison&#8217;s song. As I said in my reply to your post, you have opened me up to a unique perspective. Now, it is quite apparent that both individuals share dark themes in their works. What do you think sparked Morrison to write about these dark themes?</p>
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		<title>Comment on R2: William Blake and Jim Morrison by Abby Delbianco</title>
		<link>http://sites.duke.edu/jdharris2/2011/11/27/r2-william-blake-and-jim-morrison/#comment-166</link>
		<dc:creator>Abby Delbianco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 19:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To start out the discussion, I&#039;d like to talk about the animal imagery in Blake&#039;s poem, as the meaning of the animal imagery contributes significantly to what the overall poem means and therefore influences what Morrison may have derived from that piece.  I saw the animal references not as a call for kindness/ appreciation to animals, but instead as a warning, that things that may appear weak can still possess evil.  The dog and the horse, like some humans that are easily suppressed and controlled by those more powerful, plot evil even in their weakness.  Blake writes, &quot;a dog starv&#039;d at his master&#039;s gate predicts the ruin of the state. A horse misused upon the road calls to heaven for human blood.&quot;  Not all things that seem innocent and simple are pure, such as the dog and the horse, and I see that as Blake&#039;s point as his work emotes the contrast and greater depth and truth of reality in darkness.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To start out the discussion, I&#8217;d like to talk about the animal imagery in Blake&#8217;s poem, as the meaning of the animal imagery contributes significantly to what the overall poem means and therefore influences what Morrison may have derived from that piece.  I saw the animal references not as a call for kindness/ appreciation to animals, but instead as a warning, that things that may appear weak can still possess evil.  The dog and the horse, like some humans that are easily suppressed and controlled by those more powerful, plot evil even in their weakness.  Blake writes, &#8220;a dog starv&#8217;d at his master&#8217;s gate predicts the ruin of the state. A horse misused upon the road calls to heaven for human blood.&#8221;  Not all things that seem innocent and simple are pure, such as the dog and the horse, and I see that as Blake&#8217;s point as his work emotes the contrast and greater depth and truth of reality in darkness.</p>
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		<title>Comment on “How we walked the Milky Way”: Imagination in “A Visit to William Blake’s Inn” by Joseph Harris</title>
		<link>http://sites.duke.edu/jdharris2/2011/10/26/%e2%80%9chow-we-walked-the-milky-way%e2%80%9d-imagination-in-%e2%80%9ca-visit-to-william-blake%e2%80%99s-inn%e2%80%9d/#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 21:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Katherine,

A smart piece that provoked some smart responses! Childrens&#039; books used to be called &quot;nonsense verse&quot;—and for me, Willard shows how its the nonsensical side of Blake that seems most light-hearted. It&#039;s when he starts to make sense that he gets scary. So this book uses Blake as a way to urge kids to stop trying to make sense all of the time, to imagine as well as understand. It&#039;s a reduced version of Blake, for sure, but not that I can see him objecting too strenuously to.

I used to read this book to my daughters when they were little. I think they were probably indulging me a little!

~jh]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katherine,</p>
<p>A smart piece that provoked some smart responses! Childrens&#8217; books used to be called &#8220;nonsense verse&#8221;—and for me, Willard shows how its the nonsensical side of Blake that seems most light-hearted. It&#8217;s when he starts to make sense that he gets scary. So this book uses Blake as a way to urge kids to stop trying to make sense all of the time, to imagine as well as understand. It&#8217;s a reduced version of Blake, for sure, but not that I can see him objecting too strenuously to.</p>
<p>I used to read this book to my daughters when they were little. I think they were probably indulging me a little!</p>
<p>~jh</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mad Scientists According to Morice by Joseph Harris</title>
		<link>http://sites.duke.edu/jdharris2/2011/10/26/mad-scientists-according-to-morice/#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 21:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Katherine,

What an interesting text to stumble upon! I&#039;d love to see it, if you have a copy you could lend me.

Right now, it&#039;s hard for me to decide what Morice&#039;s intent might be. Your idea that he&#039;s making a connection between Blake and Frankenstein as creators/scientists is intriguing, but I also wonder, along with Katherine Z, if he isn&#039;t suggesting that God is a kind of Tyger? (Sort of an angry, Jehovah-like god.) But it&#039;s hard to tell without seeing more of the work.

Perhaps you could offer some more context for your reading in a revision? Interesting stuff!

~jh]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katherine,</p>
<p>What an interesting text to stumble upon! I&#8217;d love to see it, if you have a copy you could lend me.</p>
<p>Right now, it&#8217;s hard for me to decide what Morice&#8217;s intent might be. Your idea that he&#8217;s making a connection between Blake and Frankenstein as creators/scientists is intriguing, but I also wonder, along with Katherine Z, if he isn&#8217;t suggesting that God is a kind of Tyger? (Sort of an angry, Jehovah-like god.) But it&#8217;s hard to tell without seeing more of the work.</p>
<p>Perhaps you could offer some more context for your reading in a revision? Interesting stuff!</p>
<p>~jh</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hey! Mr. William Blake! by Joseph Harris</title>
		<link>http://sites.duke.edu/jdharris2/2011/10/26/hey-mr-william-blake/#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 21:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mary,

I think you make a good case here for viewing Dylan as &quot;Blake-like&quot;—in his use of a child-like narrator, his appeals to altered realms of existence, his alliance with protest and rebellion.

But I&#039;d be interested if there was also, as Kevin puts it, a more &quot;direct connection&quot; between Dylan and Blake. Is there anything in &quot;Tambourine Man&quot; that makes you think that Dylan had Blake in mind as he wrote it? (Perhaps you&#039;ve said this and I missed it?)

~jh]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary,</p>
<p>I think you make a good case here for viewing Dylan as &#8220;Blake-like&#8221;—in his use of a child-like narrator, his appeals to altered realms of existence, his alliance with protest and rebellion.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;d be interested if there was also, as Kevin puts it, a more &#8220;direct connection&#8221; between Dylan and Blake. Is there anything in &#8220;Tambourine Man&#8221; that makes you think that Dylan had Blake in mind as he wrote it? (Perhaps you&#8217;ve said this and I missed it?)</p>
<p>~jh</p>
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		<title>Comment on Infant Sorrow : The Clap meets Young Chap by Joseph Harris</title>
		<link>http://sites.duke.edu/jdharris2/2011/10/26/infant-sorrow-the-clap-meets-young-chap/#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 21:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deja,

It turns out you can&#039;t stream &lt;i&gt;Get Him&lt;/i&gt;, so I&#039;m still, at this point, waiting for the CD to arrive in the mail. Even still, you persuade me here that &quot;Infant Sorrow&quot; (a) makes a joke about the &quot;Britishness&quot; of Snow and his band, (b) makes a joke about their intellectual and political pretensions, and (c) might also make a joke about the little-boys-in-men&#039;s-bodies that seem such popular characters in movies these days. Okay, so I&#039;m extrapolating a little in (c) from what you have to say, but I&#039;d be interested to learn whether you agree or not.

A fun piece!

~jh]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deja,</p>
<p>It turns out you can&#8217;t stream <i>Get Him</i>, so I&#8217;m still, at this point, waiting for the CD to arrive in the mail. Even still, you persuade me here that &#8220;Infant Sorrow&#8221; (a) makes a joke about the &#8220;Britishness&#8221; of Snow and his band, (b) makes a joke about their intellectual and political pretensions, and (c) might also make a joke about the little-boys-in-men&#8217;s-bodies that seem such popular characters in movies these days. Okay, so I&#8217;m extrapolating a little in (c) from what you have to say, but I&#8217;d be interested to learn whether you agree or not.</p>
<p>A fun piece!</p>
<p>~jh</p>
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		<title>Comment on I Want! I Want!: Music About Desire and Ambition Inspired by William Blake by Joseph Harris</title>
		<link>http://sites.duke.edu/jdharris2/2011/10/26/i-want-i-want/#comment-148</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 21:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Lynea,

As the other Joe says, what a super-sweet analysis—of both the song and the Blake engraving! What I&#039;d really like to know, though, is what line(s) from the song made you look differently at the engraving. And where and how does the engraving function as part of the album art? Why do you think the band wanted to reference Blake—why not just sing the song (since I don&#039;t think they directly quote any lyrics in it, do they?)

And while I get Mary&#039;s point about why bands might want to offer alternative versions of songs on their albums, the Chipmunk version drove me crazy. But, otherwise, as she says, WtheM seems &quot; a groovy band.&quot;

Nice work!

~jh]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Lynea,</p>
<p>As the other Joe says, what a super-sweet analysis—of both the song and the Blake engraving! What I&#8217;d really like to know, though, is what line(s) from the song made you look differently at the engraving. And where and how does the engraving function as part of the album art? Why do you think the band wanted to reference Blake—why not just sing the song (since I don&#8217;t think they directly quote any lyrics in it, do they?)</p>
<p>And while I get Mary&#8217;s point about why bands might want to offer alternative versions of songs on their albums, the Chipmunk version drove me crazy. But, otherwise, as she says, WtheM seems &#8221; a groovy band.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nice work!</p>
<p>~jh</p>
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		<title>Comment on William Blake goes Punk by Joseph Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe,

I like the idea of Blake as a precursor to Christian rock! You show both how FIF seems very intentional in their referencing of Blake and how they pick up on many of his ideas about faith, innocence, and experiences.

But I also think the line of questioning raised by Deja, Sarah, and Catherine would be a very interesting one to explore: Does Five Iron Frenzy share Blake&#039;s suspicion of &lt;i&gt;organized&lt;/i&gt; religion (as opposed to a more idiosyncratic and dissenting spirituality)? 

An intriguing piece,

~jh]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,</p>
<p>I like the idea of Blake as a precursor to Christian rock! You show both how FIF seems very intentional in their referencing of Blake and how they pick up on many of his ideas about faith, innocence, and experiences.</p>
<p>But I also think the line of questioning raised by Deja, Sarah, and Catherine would be a very interesting one to explore: Does Five Iron Frenzy share Blake&#8217;s suspicion of <i>organized</i> religion (as opposed to a more idiosyncratic and dissenting spirituality)? </p>
<p>An intriguing piece,</p>
<p>~jh</p>
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